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Columnists 15 November 2012, Thursday 53 0 0 0
ORHAN KEMAL CENGİZ
o.cengiz@todayszaman.com

İstanbul and Constantinople

When I was young, we lived in a “Greek house.” With its iron shutters, iron gate and high-rise ceiling, our house was different from those in its vicinity.

 I also remember seeing some female Greek tourists clinging to the walls of some houses in Çeşme, where we would go in the summer. Seeing those Greek women crying, my mother would also burst into cries. For many years, I have been unable to give any meaning to those tears. Our non-Muslims had melted into thin air, leaving behind their houses, streets, churches, fountains and other “remnants,” they have always continued to be part of our lives like some sinister ghost that we cannot ward off. Despite our history textbooks that carefully avoid any mention of them and despite their names erased meticulously from every place, it seemed, they have left some sort of tiny “reminders” across the country.

After many years, I started to ponder the country’s matters and issues, and I came to realize that the problem was a “social earthquake” that was far bigger than I as a kid could perceive. If the pre-1915 demographic percentages still applied to today’s Turkey, there would be 18 million non-Muslims living in the country. Just try to visualize 18 million non-Muslims, consisting mainly of Greeks, Armenians and Jews, living in Turkey. What sort of Turkey would it be?

We would presumably be more self-confident. We would have non-Muslim deputies in Parliament, just as was the case with the Ottoman Assembly of Deputies (Meclis-i Mebusan). And we would not have the Kurdish issue whatsoever. We wouldn’t be a society that has lost its memory.

For instance, we would not hang a placard reading “İstanbul since 1453” during a soccer match between Turkish and Greek national teams. My friend, Bekir Berat Özipek, who related this incident to me, said: “In essence, this placard gives the following message to Greek fans: ‘We don’t feel like we belong to this city. This city is yours, but we have just captured it’.” I don’t think there will be a better sentence that can explain gracefully the “mood” for carefully hiding Byzantine remnants and refraining from exhibiting them on the streets.

If we had not banished non-Muslims and if we had had the courage and honesty to face the misty passages of our history, we would surely not have taken offense from writing “Constantinople” beneath the signboard for “İstanbul.” We would have found the creative courage to re-open the Hagia Sophia (Ayasofya) as a church/mosque where Christians and Muslims can worship together and in peace. We would commemorate İstanbul’s Armenian architects with gratitude. We would refer to Sinan the architect, who gave so many magnificent works to the Ottoman Empire, with his original name that proves his Armenian roots, namely Armen Sinanyan. And we would bow in front of this great master respecting his real identity, and we would contemplate with ecstasy under this dome of nations where a myriad of races and religions have intermingled.

If we did not have such complexes, we would not have discussed whether the current successor of the Greek patriarch, whose autonomy Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror revived, is ecumenical or not, and we would be boasting with the fact that our country is hosting the leader and institution of the second largest sect of Christianity. If we really had had self-confidence, we would not have denied anything about our past, and we would have taken pride in both the Muslim and Christian identities of our country. We would not attempt to love only the physical beauty of İstanbul after denying its past. Our love wouldn’t be like the adoration a crude man feels toward the physical body of a woman.

If we had been honest, we would have more authentic knowledge about ourselves and our past, and our intelligence sharpened with honesty and self-awareness would make us give everyone their due place. We would not see murderers as heroes and true heroes as traitors.

If all this had happened, the heterogeneous texture coming from a diversity of religions, languages and races would be a great asset for us. Turkey would become an island of peace in its region. Do you think we can do it from now on?

Can we overcome the pestilence of nationalism that haunted us coming from the Balkans? Can we feel in our hearts the sorrows the Muslims of the Balkans and the Christians of Turkey suffer from this pathological nationalism? Can we get over the damage done to us by pathological nationalism and love İstanbul as Constantinople? What do you think?

COMMENTS
The other face of Istanbul
Teresa Almeyda
VERY WELL SASID, MAY GOD BE TRULLY WITH YOU....!
pantelis vlahakis
A-MEN!!!
Paul
Very well written, thank you, you are a real liberal a real thinker! Orhan Kemal tessekurler, annemin, babanim, buyuk Annemin, Buyuk babanim, icin SAGOL. my grand daughter has a half turkish father, so she has a hala and a big Turkish family back in Constantinople,.. Is Tin Polin -Isatnbul I am a ...
A Rum ,a Hellenic , a Yunan
Orhan you are aboslutely right and if all of us thought in the same way, our corner of this world would have been an example to all
Alex Charalambous
Dear Mr. Cengiz, Your article is magnificent. Ottoman Turkey was the first and best multi-cultural society and the world is a poorer place without it. Turkey could have, and would have, modernized without all the lies of Kemalism and the re-ordering of history and civilization that the English and F...
Princess
My families hometown is Constantinople, we came to the USA from Southern Italy. We are Romiosini, Italian, Greek and part Turkish, yes we intermarried. A US-Turkish Businessman asked me to play on the local Turkish Soccer Team, he is like me a mix. Wonderful article.
Michael
Thank you ORHAN KEMAL One word bravo It be so nice We are million descendants of Ottoman citizens Greek, Armenians and others that love that share your open mind
Dimitri Daskalidès
Excellent commentary! I also found very witty the following: "We would not see murderers as heroes and true heroes as traitors". It would be very encouraging to be able to mention some names in a future article. People's mind needs to be provoked by images they are familiar with. A great piece overa...
Demetrios Rhompotis
I do not know what to say; this article is just so beautiful !
barbara oskanian
My dear Orhan first of all I would like to commend you for your courage and sincerity. The fact that you've approached this ancient issue with such a clarity and honesty, makes you "one of the kind" reporter knowing the repercussions you may face in the future! Personally I wish not! I must point o...
Peter Arvanitis
My dear Orchan, Your penetrating article is both refreshing and expressive of the sentiments that have languished in the hearts of both Greek and Turk alike. My father of blessed memory migrated to the America from Izmir. He was a graduate of the "Evangeliki Scholi" of Smyrna, fluent inTurkish, an...
Rev. Peter G. Rizos, Ph.D.
From your keyboard to the ears of peace loving people...and God.
Jim Rentas
What a lucide and humanitarian approach to the 1915 very sad events! Culmnist and integral intelectuel like ORHAN KEMAL CENGİZ honours the the "Zaman today" and give us hope for the future mitual understanding. Sarkis Vahaken, Armenian writer USA
sarkis vahaken, writer
Never is too late to move on !!!
Ekaterini Dimitrou
Bravo, Beautiful mind.
polyxene kasda
ararat, you describe the situation of armenia instead of Turkey.Turkey developed economically by the membership of nato and western alliance, in the opposite armenia has to be ruled by corrupt oligarks in order to please russia for the fear of Turkish attack.
atif
I want to complement ORHAN KEMAL CENGİZ on his insight, courage and honesty in a sincere effort to go beyond "pathologicial nationalism" in favor of a new Renaissance of re-discovery of our rich, shared history! The rich diversity of cultures and religions that existed in ancient Byzantium and Ottom...
JF Dimitriou
@john the turk, I never said there are no real Turks. There are many real Turks and they live in Central and East Asia, where your ancestors were from. What I say, however, is the land you call Turkey is not Turkish. Just because your ancestors took over this land by force and annihilated its native...
Ararat
If only...
june
Mr. OKC, First and foremost thank you. If nothing else , It is at least reassuring to hear a healthy voice coming from Turkey, Turkish side, as late as it is, because the truth is never late whenever it present itself. We Kurds, Armenians, Turks, Greeks, Assyrians , Jews, we all lost, first and fore...
hrair
Thank you Mr. Cengiz for a wonderful and thoughtful article. You didn't bring this up but let me indulge. I often wonder what the economy of Turkey would be like if 1895-1896 onward had not happened. A lot of Armenians did flee after the Hamidian massacres when about 300,000 Armenians were brutally ...
Ani
Avery Turks didn't come from central Asia so you and Mr Davutoglu are totally wrong. We are former Armenians and Greeks. Please get on well with your former Christian fellow countryman. By the way, People didn't move from one place to another with other people's invitation just like the Glendale cit...
john the turk
Better late than never ... most of us left and found a better welcome in the respective countries we went to.... Guess who the loser is ...
Mike
So sad that Turks deny history of genocides of non-Turks, and that they can not, or will not, use their God-given minds to discern the truth and reality that Mr. Cengiz has described here. I wish that there were more Turks like Mr. Cengiz! Men who are not afraid to look squarely into the reality and...
Sahar
Let us look at some current(demographics) statistics. In Turkey, as of today, there live around 1,200 Greeks (there were 2,400 Greeks in 2005). In Greece, as of today, there live around 120,000 ethnic Turks. Nearly 3,400 of our compatriots live on the island of Rhodes alone. With all due respect to ...
Mine Ozcelik Bagrationi
all of you Nationalist Turks lamenting the supposed absence of Turks from this place or other. Remember this undeniable fact: your ancestors left their homelands 3000 kilometers East of South Caucasus, East of Armenian Highlands, and East of Asia Minor, places near where today Uygurs of China live,...
Avery
This exquisite city - one of the most fascinating cities of the world - could never be reduced to one name. Its plural secrets and mystery cannot succumb to the reductive will of greek or turkish nationalists. Nationalists ,both sides, have symmetrical reactions. For greek nationalists history stopp...
anastasia
Ararat Your comment was idiotic at best. There is no real Turk right!. We are the former Armenians, Greeks and Asyrians so your idiotic idea that Turks came from east and took our land is baseless. By the way , we Turks love our new identity. It is especially better to be called Turk rather than Arm...
john the turk
To the author, saying if does not help. The past is the past and your article is basically ignoring the fact that Ataturk and the leadership at the time wanted it that way after the difficult days when enemies within were working with the enemies abroad. Trust was an issue and guess what in some way...
Senol
Your heart is certainly in the right place and therefore your head follows.I hope many people will read this article and think about what was done to other nationalities in the past and perhaps learn to accept each other as individuals.This would mean not blindly following religion or ideology but b...
Petra
@Vartan, the Turks can rename the historical Armenian landmarks all they want but they can never erase facts. There is no such thing as Ağrı Dağı outside of Turkey. There is only the Biblical Mount Ararat which is the heartland of the Armenian homeland. The word Ararat is the Biblical name for Armen...
Ararat
Amazing how people keep looking at history to determine the future. Could people not leave the history of pain and hurt and move on to create an equitable and just society. As the author points out, could Istanbul be the place? The answer is not what happened in the past, rather it is the here, no...
lcj
A very remarkable article by a courageious writer.I think Mr.OKC is the first liberal minded Turk who accepts the very etnic origin of the great Ottoman architect Sinan being an Armenian.He rightly gives credit to all Armenian architects,the famous Balian family who built beautiful palaces among th...
Gaidzag Magdassian
Nice deam Mr. Cengiz. The painful truth is that Turks only imagined, and continue to do so today, living in an all-Turkic entity where non-Turks had no place. In the mind of a Turk co-habitation with equal rights with non-Turks, as you imagine in your dream, is both unrealistic and inapplicable. Tur...
J2
Can the pathological nationanalism be undone to love mount Aghr as mount ARARAT ?
Vartan
@serkan, spoken like a true loyal Turk indeed. Never try to address the issues because if you do you will expose yourself and feel vulnerable. Instead, take attention away from the subject being discussed by pointing fingers at others and compare figures. Of course, I dont expect anything more from ...
Ararat
There were hundreds of thousands of Turks living in Armenia and Greece at one time too. They were also victim of of the same Armenian and Greek nationalism that plagued Anatolia at the begining of the 20th Century. Do their memories not deserve to be mentioned too? Are Turkish people less human to y...
Ayse
Just imagine. If it had not been for Armenian and Greek violence against Turkey during WWI, they would have still been citizens of Turkey today. In fact, many still are. The author somehow seems to have "forgoten" the thousands of Turks murdered and ethnically cleansed from Greece and Armenia. Isn'...
Serkan
dear OKC if i were you, i would read some history books especilly ottoman history. One, who doesn’t know his own history, can’t know his own future. Do you really think that greeks, armenians, jews, turks live together? i dont think so.turks and greeks cant live together in cyprus, in thessaloniki,...
the_tiger
A great article indeed. The real irony here is the fact that the thoughts and wish lists you presented here are exactly what the Turkish propaganda machine feeds to the outside world as facts. It presents Turkey as this mosaic of cultures and ancient people with great culture and civilizations livin...
Ararat
A noble vision will go a long way. Narrow racist religious view points will do harm to many people but eventually to the adopters own demise. Repent when it is still not too late.
Sir Percy
Greek and Armenian fanatic nationalism has resulted in the complete destruction of the once-majority Turkish communities of Armenia and Greece. During WWI,it was tried in Anatolia also. This author is attempting to employ one-sided Armenian and Greek propaganda that tries to portray Greek and Armen...
Ayhan
Your questions are so right !!! The people living in Istanbul today have so many different origins. Yes, I believe the city has the potential to be a model in terms of tolerance which means respecting other people's ways of living. In a world where hate is dominant, Istanbul could be a world exemple...
geza
Mr. Orhan has not informed us how many Turks there would be in Crete, the Aegean Islands, or Mora Peninsula in Greece today if they were not murdered and ethnically cleansed by Greek terorrist gangs. He has not told us of how their mosques are demolished and their identities erased. He has not info...
Serkan
well said [Mani].
Avery
It hurts, doesn't it? OKC does it again.
@ necati
Great peace dear Orhan. I am a bit sceptical though that there will be any progress in Turkey with Mr Erdoghan who orders to destroy or dismantle (whatever you call it)the Turkish-Armenian friendship /reconsiliation statue in Kars.
Reeder
No, no one can get over the damage. You cannot put back pomegranates together. The legacy of 1915 will continue to deform all, with or without reconciliation, with or with acknowledgement. Armenians and other Christians have had no choice but to accept the reality of loss at some level. Turks on...
Jack Kalpakian
Turks are incapable to get rid of this pestilence of "hatred of the other". They only know how to occupy the lands of others, massacre, kill or covert them by force and call it "Turkiye". The 18 million estimated Non-Turks they would have existed today is a blood debt on the neck of Turkey of today ...
Mani
OKC, have you ever tried to see things through Turkish window?
necati
I share your sentiments. It would make for a more peaceful Turkey. There is enough space for everyone and intermingling of cultures only enriches us, a beautiful prospect.
Mariani Coombes
Thank you. A country draws strength from diversity. This has been the case since humans first formed communities. Those secure in their beliefs are not afraid of opposing beliefs. Criticism and self reflection are critical to an open and democratic society. İ want the best for Turkey and hope she ...
winslowdream
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