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YAVUZ BAYDAR
y.baydar@todayszaman.com

As Syria collapses, Israel needs Turkey

“What will follow is not clear, given the mixed and divided nature of the opposition. This much we know: On the fate of Syria hangs the fate of the earth’s most combustible region,” wrote Jonathan Freedland, in the Guardian.

Combustion is ahead in the not too distant future. As opposed to the former Yugoslavia, Syria will not implode, “It will explode,” a close aid to Obama said. Given the devilish nature of rule tied to the Assad dynasty, its collective memory and its well proven ways of shaping policies based on horror and terror, it is only natural that many a ricochet will be scattered around its neighborhood, not if, but when it does.

People come to realize now that if the Assad clan’s base shatters for real, those very deep consequences will indeed be underway.

“What began with Nasser in Egypt -- or even Atatürk in Turkey -- will end with Assad: the regime that represses local and ethnic difference in the name of nationalism centered cultishly on the leader. In its place will come at first the chaos of hundreds of new parties and an even greater number of mediocre politicians. But eventually it will pave the way for a post-dictatorship Middle East, a place where rulers stand or fall not on their ability to exploit problems as moves in a geopolitical power game, but to solve them instead,” according to Freedland.

If these predictions are true, what could be done by two key countries in the region neighboring Syria, namely Turkey and Israel, needs a good elaboration. As days go by, this question is moving into the center.

The last 72 hours or so brought a new dimension that brings together two old allies and new foes, on common concerns: The collapse of the old order in Syria is real, irreversible.

If Assad is rapidly losing territorial control as claimed, namely close to 70 percent now, what became visible needs quick, efficient thinking: No matter if Turkish intelligence data that Assad ordered the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) alongside the Turkish border to be equipped with weaponry is true, the recent developments in the Kurdish northeast of Syria overlaps with what Carl Bildt, foreign minister of Sweden, described as a new drama unfolding. Never mind the “have we not told you so” type of concerns of some Turkish pundits that the Kurds of Syria have now moved in to declare a liberated zone. But still, how Turkey will manage those Kurds’ integration into a new Syria, by eliminating the destabilizing effect of the PKK, is a huge challenge.

The same applies to Israel, with the arch-enemy Hezbollah located on its northern border. No matter if Israeli intelligence data that Assad is on the brink of handing over some of his chemical weapons to that area, it is certainly alarming enough. It is easily foreseen that the burden of Israel and Turkey will be of a similar nature.

Yet, here you have two powerful, democratic, key allies that do not talk to each other. And, it must be said, objectively, that Israeli governments in the past decade managed to show how mistrustful, myopic and arrogant they have been towards Turkey by refusing a Turkish-sponsored deal with Syria, undermining relations badly with the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government and refusing to apologize for a crime committed (by killing 10 people, of which 7 were conservative Kurds from Turkey) in international waters.

Their dispute will remain a heavy burden mainly on Israel, but also (to a much lesser degree on Turkey) if things roll out of control in the region as Assad’s order collapses. Both Israel and Turkey could make a difference now. It is interesting to see, however, the big differences in how their governments judge the reality.

Concerned as it is, Ankara is aware of the fact that changes in Iraq and Syria may come to mean a change of the political status of the region’s Kurds. It therefore is keen to strike a balance between the fight against the PKK terror, as it assists in the coordination of efforts to “win over other Kurds” to the side of regime changes. The AKP and reformist circles all back these nuanced policies. Ankara remains closer to realism.

But, the Israeli government and military still live in the old order. Israel’s public remains aloof and thinks deeply about the profound changes that take place all around them. A recent news analysis in the New York Times helped reveal the sad fact that for Israel it is still all, only about security, without the slightest need of revision of its decades old, ineffective policies.

Eyal Zisser, chairman of the Middle East and African history department at Tel Aviv University, told the NYT: “Most Israelis do not care about the grievances and the aspirations of their neighbors, democracy, justice, prosperity. They care about their own security. That’s the way of the average Israeli, and as a result, his government.”

Turkey may be criticized for its “zero problem with neighbors’’ policy, but it blocks many others from seeing that it is actually Israel that insists on maintaining a “zero neighbors without problems” policy instead of being part of the architecture of the new region. None of this changes the fact that they need the trust of one another, to protect the people of the Middle East.

COMMENTS
I am a former Unicef at Gaza Strip. Now 50 years past I am a retired Professor at Engeering Scholl at Universidade Federal of Minas Gerais - Brazil. Along these last years I studied the policies of Meadle West countries and I hope thet the peace now come to the people. No more wars. Tanks god.
Ottoni, Luciano
Mr.Baydar as well as other Zaman commentators have the laughable delusion that the whole world needs Turkey . Israel can take very good care of itself without any Turkish friedship .Turkey ,Arab and other Islamists can learn much from Israel .You are all obsesed with Israel !
stone
Take a hike Mr. Baydar, you're clueless and don't know what you're writing. Why don't you stick to strictly Muslim/Arab issues. Why don't you talk about how our Muslim brothers and sisters are killing their own all around us, better talk about those insane and ruthless regimes than about the only tr...
Yasar
Actually it is Turkey that is needing Israel. Turkey will never be accepted into EU or be trusted by West unless it is having good relations with Israel. Israel is democracy country with western culture and is being sorrounded by enemies. Turkey is having to decide if it is wanting to be with Israel...
Ramesh
Well Mr. Baydar, let me enlighten you, without security, the Jews would be dead, so it is pretty ignorant for you to undermine that point. Israel is surrounded by a sea of Arab enemies and you belittle their most important need, that of staying alive? You're laughable. You are forgetting that terror...
Erik
@ Cherokee , 23 July 2012 , 15:02: AGAIN I am being impersonated by some trolling Jew that is using my name. It is quite easy to see the fake, as I would never use the grammatically improper "........." because I know better. It's really low and sleazy to impersonate a writer with whom you disagree ...
Cherokee
@ Cherokee , 23 July 2012 , 15:02: WHY are you pretending to be me -- you have hijacked my name and said something I would never say. Are you a Jew paid to troll the comments sections of newspapers to twist others' opinions?
Cherokee
consider the following: the last thing turkey, and the region, need is a nuclear iran. turkey, like israel will not allow their neighbor to develop nuclear weapons. turkey knows that israel will take the lead in preventing the outcome. so in a sense israel is doing turkey a big favor. now, syria has...
winslowdream
Your humility is amazing, Mr. Baydar. It is not only Israel which needs Turkey but the whole world and the Universe need Turkey. How could we have all these inventions and advancements without Turkey? I think Turkey is the center of Universe. How could I miss it?
David
May be Turkey needs Israel more !You Turks are delusional with your hyperinflated sence of importance and power .None of your neighbours is impressed.We Israelis would appreciate your friendship ,but not at any price !
stone
And if and when your Turkey collapses ,whom Israel can turn to????????????????????????????????????????
Esfandyar
Am I the only one seeing the irony in General Shermans comment below. He says that Turkey and the Turks do not need foreign countries, and at the same time he is a Turk who has moved abroad.........
Cherokee
Yes, and vice versa.
serried
GeneralSherman. Your mindset is in the 1920's. Turkey and turks are extremely dependent on the rest of the world (just like any other country). Just the fact that more Turks have emigrated from their home country than from any other counrty in the world, shows that Turks are not at all like you. The...
demande
I seriously doubt if Israel needs Turkey either now or after the probable collapse of the Assad regime -except as a sizeable market for its goods and military hardware. This feeling of baseless self-importance is not really healthy. What you call PKK terror is a National liberation struggle against ...
Aziz
demande, I don't know about the WHOLE world needing Turkiye, but I do know for a fact that we don't need anyone (see 1920's). Why did you write "same message year after year"? What is it about this message that bothers you that you don't like hearing it "year after year"? Do you wrongly think oth...
GeneralSherman
As usual. Everybody in the whole world needs Turkey, and we do not need anyone. Same message year after year......
demande
The old Turkish-Israeli relations cannot be restored as long as the AKP is so deeply invested in Israel-bashing, and all other Turkish parties continue with their conspiratorial, borderline antisemitic views of anything and everything as the result of Israeli/Jewish conspiracy. Israel will remain al...
Israeli
Amazing! The prospect of Kurds governing themselves remains Turks' nightmare. Wake up! The Kurds are surely no less deserving of self-rule than the Turks, Arabs, Greeks etc
David
You absolutely right about one thing Mr.Baydar that Israelis are paranoid about their borders and their security.Israel is very interested in having good relationship with Turkey but not at any cost. What Erdogan did with flotilla was a dirty provocation, a show and points collecting. I don't think ...
Victor
Isreal does not need Turkey it has the USA and has found new friends the Greeks and is now allied with them against Turkey.It is Turkey that is in need of an ally since it has now made new enemies Isreal and now the Shias in the region .Relying on unreliable arab states is all that Turkey has left....
Ahmed
With friends like Turkey who needs enemies? Turkey offers Israel little. At one time Turkey bought lots of arms from Israel, they were a good customer. But not anymore. So what does Turkey offer Israel now? Partner in a strategic location? We have Cyprus now, who needs Turkey?
Yaacov
I have several problems with this analysis. First, the Arab countries of the region, would reject any and all involvement by Israel, with no exceptions. If a earthquake was to level Cairo, Egypt would refuse help from the Jewish state, even if at the cost of thousands of lives (and that from a Ara...
rich
If Syria collapses, but this seems very difficult now, Israel will need the Kurds not Turkey anymore, Turkey will become completely useless not only for Israel but for all the West.
Araratian
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