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26 May 2013 Sunday
 
 
 
 
 
 
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ŞAHİN ALPAY
s.alpay@todayszaman.com

Is Israel in good shape?

Let me begin by repeating my position on the state of Israel. I believe that Israel's right to live within secure and recognized borders must be fully respected by all.

The only way to achieve this, however, is Israel putting an end to the occupation and oppression of the Palestinians and recognizing an independent Palestinian state with the 1967 borders. I strongly reject the practice of labeling as anti-Semitism any criticism directed towards the uncompromising policies of Israel. I regard the unconditional backing for the policies of Israel by the Israeli lobby in the United States and elsewhere as highly detrimental to the interests of the Israeli people.

How the process by which autocratic regimes are replaced by representative governments in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen and soon in Syria will affect the security of Israel is surely one of the main questions brought about by the Arab Awakening that has shaken the Middle East and North Africa region. This question is, of course, being debated primarily in Israel itself. During recent days I came across two diametrically opposed views on this issue arising from the Israeli establishment. One of them belongs to Barry Rubin, who is a distinguished professor of international relations.

In an article titled “The region: Israel is in good shape,” Rubin argues that Israel's security is not threatened, at least in the short term, for the following reasons: Internal conflicts will disrupt Arab armies and economies and reduce their ability to fight against Israel. Islamist policies will handicap their development. Even if they may try to attack Israel, they will be able to do so less effectively. Since anticipated democratization will not materialize, they will lose the sympathy of disillusioned Westerners. The Arabs do not want or need Turks to tell them what to do. Turkey's influence in the region is limited to northern Iraq. Sunni Arab Islamists will surely not follow Iran's lead. “The big Middle East conflict of the future is not the Arab-Israeli, but the Sunni-Shia one.” Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the Gulf emirates are well aware that the main threat to them is from Iran and Islamists at home.

Rubin also argues that while the Palestinians have failed the greatest opportunity they have ever had to gain the support of the United States by rejecting Obama's initiatives, Israel is dramatically successful in terms of economic and technological progress, and more importantly stands stable and united. (The Jerusalem Post, July 15, 2012.)

Israel's former Foreign Minister and former leader of the Kadima party Tzipi Livni, however, has an entirely different perception of Israel's circumstances, which can be summarized as follows: The elections in Egypt have strengthened the most radical elements in the region. The invitation extended by King Hussein of Jordan to Hamas is not encouraging. The fact that the Palestinian issue has been clouding relations between Israel and the Arab world cannot be ignored. Their leaders may have seen benefits in peaceful relations with it, but Israel has remained the enemy for the people. Israel has signed treaties with the leaders but did not make peace with the people. Momentous shifts in the region mean that Israel will have to take decisions not easily accepted by its citizens. This includes conducting negotiations with the Palestinians to reach an agreement. The key to normalizing relations with the Arab and Muslim world lies in the Arab League's Peace Initiative of 2002, which offers normalization with Israel if it makes peace with the Palestinians. Livni concludes that “nothing is more urgent than our need to solve our conflict with the Palestinians.” (“Neither an Arab spring nor Islamist winter,” Financial Times, July 12, 2012.)

I strongly condemn the terror attack on Israeli citizens in Burgas, Bulgaria, as I do all terrorism. No cause whatsoever can legitimize killing innocent civilians. The attack, however, is yet another sign that Israel needs to make peace with the peoples of the region. There are signs that even the people of Israel itself are increasingly weary of the policies pursued by their governments. The protest movement against social injustice and the high cost of living, surely a consequence of high military spending to ensure the occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people, is on the rise. The likelihood of a third Intifada cannot be excluded. All these seem to indicate that Rubin's thinking is wishful, whereas Livni's is highly relevant.

COMMENTS
@Ben, Levent is a Kemalist, who dislikes Arabs because he likes to generalise and he has an issue with Turkey's history where the Arabs backed the Christian armies against their own Muslim brothers. He likes to keep this static and not move on from history. I prefer to see Arabs of today as they are...
Senol
A Palestinian state with the 1967 borders is equal to the destruction of Israel and Mr. Alpay knows the interests of the Israeli people better than the Israelis. Amazing!
David
Mr.Alpay and all others who give their unsolicited advise to Israel :Don't worry about us .We know how ,and will take very good care of ourselves .We rather be your friends but if you don't like us ,who cares .You are a bunch of hypocrites and should mind your own business .Thre may be a small Pale...
stone
@Levent, no, you are not ignorant, in fact, your comment here was very refreshing and uplifting, to me at least, and as you can see, many others here felt same as they have commented also. The ignorance however, is correct and by that, I meant that they do not really know the history of the Jews nor...
ben
Tzipi Livni is one the most pragmatic of Israeli politicians though many other outstanding Israeli politicians share the same views. Israel deserves the security it aspires for but not at the expense of Palestinians, whose leaders excel in negotiating skills ignoring the time factor which is perhaps...
Ahmed m Ibrahim
@Ben your comment is the reflection of most Muslims as you said, I'm Turkish and have nothing against Jews I prefer to socialise with Jews rather than Arabs but does that make me ignorant because I'm a Muslim Turk! You are the ignorant one for judging people by there religion. There are more people ...
LEVENT
This line is very unpleassant "No cause whatsoever can legitimize killing innocent civilians. The attack, however, is yet another sign that Israel needs to make peace with the peoples of the region. " The logic here is something like "they have to listen to the terrorists Hamas or they deserve to be...
Unpleassant
The ignorance of Muslims is stupefying when it comes to Jewish history in the Middle East. Or maybe they know the real story but their hatred rules their minds and hearts.
ben
His my educated and logical thoughts. Israel has had security for a long time because deals were made with the ARAB regimes (bought) however never with the Arab people. With democracy, the ARAB or Muslim based nations will insist different terms to dealing with Israel and this will only strengthen t...
Senol
Another thing that is true is that Israel must always be prepared to be defending itself. And it is needing to working with friendly democracy countries like America and India. And making sure that its enemies are never getting united or powerful.
Ramesh
I am agreeing with @LEVENT. If Turkey is wanting to be a modern country then it is needing modern friends like Israel and America. And not backward countries like Arabs and Iran. Maybe Turks need to get out of Islam and become truly secular, then they will be accepted as EU country. Otherwise as lon...
Ramesh
Where does GeneralSherman live? He speaks like a ultranationalist, but I get the impression that he does not even live in Turkey, but instead somewhere in the West among Christians?
Kaya
Agree with LEVENT. Arabs are too extreme to get along with.
sub
The invented Palestinians, who could not even come up with their own name and kept using the one used by the Romans, are oppressing themselves with the terror they commit or support. Why do you suppose that not Egypt, not Jordan, not any Arab country to my knowledge, want these people? Palestinians...
Zak
Mr. Alpay, making peace with terrorists is not as easy as you make it sound, surely as a Turk you know this well. It isn't Israel who is opposed to peace, it is the Palestinians. Next time there is a PKK terror attack, will you say, there is no excuse for the murders they have committed, but as long...
Keith
General Sherman read Benny Morris 2nd Edition regarding the Arab Refugee issue. The total number was/is something like 700K and most of them are dead or dying. You're referring to the UNRWA figure of 5 MILLION descendents, that's laughable. The original refugees weren't allowed back since they ha...
tzatz
@"general sherman".We will never allow Hamastan in the West Bank,or the so called "right of return ".Too bad.if it upsets you .If the local Arabs don't like it let them move to Lebanon or Syria .I am sure they will be well received by their brother Arabs .
stone
Although Israel and Turkey have drifted apart and I cannot see things ever being the same again,  I myself as a Turk would prefer Jews rather than Arabs to socialise and do business with. Arabs are too medieval and anti-social they also create a bad atmosphere a cannot adapt to modern life. Who want...
LEVENT
Cherokee calls Israels behaviour "delusional paranoia". 4000 rockets launched on random tartets (hospitals, child care centres, houses etc), numerous suicide bombers, kidnappings etc etc. carried out by Hamas (labeled as a terror organisation by EU and US and many more), it does not sound like "delu...
Sioux
tzatz, you are out of your mind. You're a bunch of Central and Eastern Europeans with no ties to the region and you go there and occupy land. You make refugees out of millions of Palestinians. And you think they're just going accept you telling them that they're going to be permanent refugees in ...
GeneralSherman
Mind your business and stay out of our's .Too bad you don't like us ,but we don't care .Who are your friends in the region ? The only thing you islamists have in common is your hatred of Israel .The only thing acceptable to you is Israel's destruction .Keep on dreaming .It will never happen .Mr."Che...
stone
Barry Rubin is right on! The status quo vis a vis the Palestinians will remain the only viable option. The only solution seems to be a 3 state solution since Hamastan is already an independent enclave and the West Bank is not contiguous with Hamastan. They have grown apart over the years. While ...
tzatz
The rants here by Cherokee are always the same but have little by way of fact to support them. Making peace is a two way street, to date Hamas (a close friend of Turkey) has rejected ANY notion of accepting Israel as a Jewish state in the region. Since Hamas took control of Gaza, Egypt has closed ...
rich
Always acting out of delusional paranoia, Israel is simply unable to make logical, rational, and humane decisions. Once a nation has declared to the world that they are superior to everyone else, all is lost. The propaganda munching theocrats and fascists of Israel will surely lead their people down...
Cherokee
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