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May 26, 2012
 
 
 
 
 
 
Columnists 31 January 2012, Tuesday 25 0 3 0
ORHAN KEMAL CENGİZ
o.cengiz@todayszaman.com

French bill and readers’ comments

I have just read that the French bill to criminalize the denial of Armenian genocide has been brought before the French Constitutional Court.

The bill has provoked hot debate not only in Turkey but across the globe. In my article (“French bill again”) that was published by Today’s Zaman last week attracted quite fervent reactions from readers: some support me, some criticize and some have brought new perspectives on the subject. Sometimes we columnists need to give the floor to our readers. In this context, I would like to share some comments from my readers that I have received through emails, Facebook, Twitter and from readers’ comments posted under my column on www.todayszaman.com. In order to fit them into my space, I have shortened some of them; I apologize in advance to my readers if my shortened versions cause the loss of some sense from their comments. Here they are:

From Vahe: “This is a solemn moment for all Armenians who long suffer from Turkey’s denial and the silence of those countries who were observers at the time of the genocide.”

From Ararat: “Turkish leaders and politicians are insincere opportunists. Each and every Turkish government over the years has acted and reacted [in] the same manner in regards to the Armenian issue. Every time this issue has come up anywhere they have tried to buy their way out of it. They have never tried to have a dialogue with their victims.” From Jack: “Turkey was given a chance at immense US expense to clear the matter in 2009. It chose not to do that. Okay, things will remain as they are and in about 15-20 years the last Armenians will leave Turkey insuring a pure Turkic country forever. Congratulations.” From Mani: “Yes, Orhan, perhaps Sarkozy is trying to hit a few birds with one stone. He is a politician after all. However, we all know and I think you agree that Sarkozy in this case is not the main relevant issue. The denial of the Armenian genocide by Turkey is HURTING Turkey more than if it was to admit to it and open to the reality of taking the path of truth and justice. If anything, Turkey should take Germany as its model and the civil path that Germany took after the Holocaust and murdering millions of people.”

From Anastasia: “Orhan, referring to your article about the French bill, I would like to go even further and say that Armenians themselves should oppose the bill because: 1. They have a moral duty towards their forefathers to protect them from being used by a mean political opportunism; 2. Coercitive legal measures are of no use for a progress in denialists’ consciousness … nor do they contribute to the redemption of the victims, since the authors of the genocide do not recognize and assume their crimes; 3. Instead of focusing on denialism and criminalization of denialists, they would better turn their attention to positive actions and give their support to those brave and honest people in Turkey, who serve their cause; [and] 4. Finally, Armenians have to get rid of a static vision of Turkish politics, or at least appreciate all this preparatory work, done by journalists, intellectuals, etc. towards the awakening of the public opinion in Turkey. If this preliminary work is not accomplished, the Turkish government cannot recognize Armenians’ massacres as a genocide.”

From Ralph: “How can Orhan Kemal Cengiz, of all people, conflate and confuse distinct issues -- unless the subject has disturbed him beyond sense. The premeditated and meticulously orchestrated massacre by the Young Turk ‘junta’ of the Armenians of Anatolia, by various means, not least the death march (one copied by Tito) fully fits the definition and intent of racial genocide. This is quite distinct from French political ‘conspiracy’ -- as claimed by many -- to ‘use’ the issue to garner votes from the French Armenian diaspora (if indeed this is the sole motive -- doubtful. Surely some/many proponents and supporters of the bill are sincere). Above all, the fact remains that modern Turkey, and apparently the majority of the citizens of Turkey, have failed dismally to come to terms with the dreadful events of 1915 perpetrated by the Ottoman Turkish authorities, nationalist and racist and murderous, of that time, many of whom became protagonists and prominent figures in the founding and evolution of the Republic of Turkey. Most bewildering is Orhan’s claim that the French bill, come law, to make denial of the Armenian genocide a criminal offence, obstructs Turkish recognition of this genocide. This is nonsensical. … The French bill, whether to be approved by the president or not, should encourage the people of Turkey to demand the same in their own Parliament, to acknowledge the truth and bury the lie Turkey has lived for almost a century. Let the citizens of Turkey be set free from this dreadful denial of one of the greatest crimes of recent history.”

There are so many other brilliant, thought-provoking comments, but my space has allowed me to only quote this much.

COMMENTS
Dear Sir/Madam, Is France trying to isolate Turkey?With the passing of the law in France of the 1915 so-called Armenian genocide and with the wide coverage of this historic event in Turkey, I cannot help but wonder the ulterior motive of both countries. So, what is France’s motive? If we look at th...
Selva Unal
Ayhan, you must be a great scholar but you missed to read a basic fact: The term genocide was coined by Raphael Lemkin (1900?1959), a Polish-Jewish legal scholar, in 1944, firstly from the Greek root ????? génos "birth, race, stock, kind", secondly from Latin -cidium "cutting, killing" via French -c...
Saaten Maagar
@ Johan: Let me use your own words "And who the hell were the Europeans to slaughter 50 million innocent Native Indians of two continents for more than 400 years? Again your near-sightedness, and self-righteousness ALWAYS renders everything you say totally moot. AND, let's not forget about the rest ...
Cherokee
@Ayhan, bla bla bla fairy tale. Time to change the needle on that LP player, it is stuck on the plate scratching it and making repetetive unpleasant noise.
Ararat
@satrap, you just proved my point. You basically say that all Turkish governments, regardless of their ideology and background, have denied the Armenian Genocide. Furthermore you use the word 'fake' when referring to the Armenian Genocide, without arguing your point and giving any proof, which means...
Ararat
Orhan, you showed in your article exactly how your Armenian genocide works. Neglect the critics in this matter, focus only on what Armenians and their supporters tell, then you get a genocide. In this way, you can transform every war participant into a genocide perpetrator.
Sandokhan
@satrap, you just proved my point. You basically say that all Turkish governments, regardless of their ideology and background, have denied the Armenian Genocide. Furthermore you use the word 'fake' when referring to the Armenian Genocide, without arguing your point and giving any proof, which means...
Ararat
If you were a true human rights advocate you would have mentioned the real genocidal crimes such as the mass graves of Turkish Cypriots in Murataga or thekillings/ forced expulsions of 350,000 Azeri Turks from Yerevan in 1988, which was once an entirely Azeri Turkish majority city before it was ill...
Ayhan
If youwere a true scholar, you would havementioned by now an event cannot be called“genocide” without a court mandate according to the Convention on Genoicde. If you were a true scholar you would have also mentioned that events from before the adoption of the Genocide Convention cannot be considered...
Ayhan
How about a two-stage solution, both politically possible and just? 1. Admit the genocide and join the ranks of normal countries that admit that their history is the history of human beings, capable of evil as well as good. 2. No compensation. The perpetrators are long dead, the regime defunct. If ...
J. S. Mill
If the ancient Armenian cathedrals, churches, monasteries are appearing in your dreams along with skeletal images of men, women and children, then you're most probably one very frightened Turk like your forefathers were. Believe me; what inflicts an individual can inflict a whole society. It is not ...
hartakogh
@ Satrap: It is curious to trace the source of your anger and vile. Is it I wonder, the lingering identity crisis you and your forefathers were subjected to the minute you arrived into Asia Minor some 600 hundred years ago? Is it the agony and guilt of ravaging, destroying, pillaging, plundering an...
hartakogh
I do not envy anyone who is a columnist or an intellectual in Turkey and if I was one, I would be extremely angry at the founders of modern day Turkey. How can one cope with the notion that not even one word is mentioned in the official history books about Armenians. Thousands of them lived in Anato...
Saaten Maagar
@Satrap; if Armenians were ''only deported from their homeland'' why were many crucified? Do you need to see some of those pictures? And who the hell were the Turks to drive innocent people out from their homes?!! Besides, its the ultimate cowardly act to play around with hunderd of thousands of chi...
Johan
Ararat You must be a diaspora Armenian who thinks in such a way the Turkish government decides what to do on any subject then the Turkish public follows the order. What a nonsense!! Don'y you realize that more than 60 different governments have ruled Turkey and the are all from different walk of lif...
satrap
The most weak point of this issue, in my mind, is this: who has decided that Ottomans had in fact concluded a genocide against the Armenians? Armenians disagree with the Turkish proposal that a committee should be established to determine whether or not a genocide had been committed. Why? Even the t...
Nixos
@satrap, I also heard a well-known Turkish humanitarian describe the basic and fundamental requirement for a 'loyal' Turk, as viewed by his government, being one who never questions his government, its policies and motives behind the policies and adheres to a strict doctrine put forth by his governm...
Ararat
Orhan,you should discuss why Turkey denies the Genocide.
Sassounts
PM Erdoğan heavily criticised the opposition when they went to Turkey's constitutional court and called them anti-democratic. Now he praises the action of taking a democratic vote on the Armenian genocide to the French constitutional court to have it annulled - different name same old politics.
court
Please read and digest Mr. ""Humanright"" The first PM of Armenia Says"" We overestimated the ability of the Armenian people, its political and military power, and overestimated the extent and importance of the services our people rendered to the Russians. And by overestimating our very modest worth...
satrap
a well-known Ottoman historian Murat Bardakci says """ the basic requirements of being intellectual in Turkey is to attack and insult everything that is Turkish and accept the nonsense claims of the diaspora Armenians as versus from the bible even though they haven't smell the archives or seen a sin...
satrap
a well known historian/Journalist Murat bardakci says "" the basic requirements of being an intellectual in Turkey is to insult everything that is Turkish and accept what the Armenian diaspora says as a verse from bible even though they haven't seen a single piece of documents from the archives"" Mr...
satrap
the problem hartakogh is that for the 'Turks' there are no 'facts' - there is only 'ideology', intimidation and liquidation (even today) - the same ideology that made it happen and is used to cover up - to make people think is always commendable
tommy
I pray and wish that one day more Orhan Kemal Cengizes will be born accross Turkey who will become the prophets of final peace between all Armenians and Turks.. But that dream is light years away and I am very pessimissitic under the current events of denial of the Armenian Genocide and murdering mo...
Mani
Thank you for sharing some of the comments regarding this very emotional issue. Nevertheless,as a journalist and an intellectual your mission should be primarily to enlighten the Turkish society (the masses) based on historical facts and only facts. The Armenian genocide should not be a tool for po...
hartakogh
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